((carrison: everybody known what a hickey is. okay, you get a hickey from somebody sucked on your neck. okay, and it used to be big with teenagers. well if that was true all the teenagers that had hickeys would be more healthy than the ones that didn't.)) ((vanessa murphy)) zhiang says oriental medicine traditional medicine because it's more of a nature healing art.... but carrison calls cupping false science with no studies to back it up. as for phelps, carrison refers to the placebo effect. if you believe it works...it just might help. ((carrison: if you can do soemthing that will make you 1000th of a second faster, that may be the difference between you being a world champion or losing.)) oriental medical doctors... and there's years of education and exams required to become an oriental medical doctor....cupping is part of that training. but to a traditional physician like carrison....they are not doctors because they haven't graduated from traditional medical school.// >>> we'll be right back......../// oh, hey jen! hey... ..